This episode, Lucy and Smug are joined by Siddiq Diwan (Imam and Hospital Chaplain at Manchester Foundation Trust) and Laurence Gambella (Hospital Chaplain at Manchester Foundation Trust and the Christie). They talk about how the pandemic has affected their pastoral and spiritual support in challenging times, as well as the formal and informal rituals that surround illness and dying, in clinical settings, in people’s homes and lives in general. 


Join Lucy Burke, (Co Investigator at D4D & Principal Lecturer at MMU) and Smug Roberts (Actor, Comedian and Broadcaster) for 4ofUs, an intimate chat show for the socially distanced…

Our two hosts meet two special guests to talk about life, lockdown and their hopes and fears for the future. Dialing in from their homes and workplaces, these are the stories that rarely make the news.

Each episode features people whose work or personal experiences have placed them at the heart of an unfolding global crisis. They might be the people most at risk from Coronavirus, from medical staff on the frontline to carers and teachers. Or the people whose lives and work have been disrupted or transformed forever.